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Hi, i going to purchase 1 workstation for 3ds max 2011. This PC should last me about 4-5 years. Autodesk only gives the min requirement for the software and i've not ideal what's the latest hardware available now. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. :D
Thanks for all your answer. It's been helpful. i've actually don't have a lot of budget to work with, only around 7 to 8k only. i can only hope to get as high as possible to last me 2 to 3 upgrades of software, else i'll be stuck without upgrade for the next 5 yrs. :(
Thanks all. :)
Answer
Congratulations!
It sounds like you are preparing to have a lot of fun!
A couple of things you didn't mention:
1. When you say "state of the art" what computer class are you referring to? Laptop? Desktop? Industrial Super Computer?
2. What's your budget? 'This question's for the little people'... or 'I'm eating cat food after buying 3ds Max 2011!'.?
So, I'm gonna assume you mean what's best suited for the application within corporate reason. So. if it were MY birthday instead of yours, I'd put together a desktop system incorporating the following:
Intel Core i7 995X @ 3.60GHz CPU (And possibly overclock it to over 4Ghz)
EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI Motherboard
Thermaltake VN10001W2N Level 10 GT Full Tower Case
Thermaltake Spin Q CPU Cooler (With LGA 1366 Socket Support)
Ultra Electronics Card Systems 1600W X3 Modular Power Supply
24GB of DDR3 1600MHz (or faster) Dynamic RAM
2 SLI'ed Nvidia Quadro 6000s (if you call Bill Gates 'daddy'... biological or sugar.)* OR
4 SLI'ed Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 GPUs (which together, will cost less than one Quadro 6000!)*
2 SATA 3.0 6Gb/S Controllers
4 Crucial C300-CTFDDAC256MAG SSD drives configured in RAID 10 (for OS, programs, active projects and virtual memory)
4 or 6 Hitachi Deskstar 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB SATA 3.0 6.0Gb/s 3.5in Hard Drives in RAID 10 or 5 (for data and local project archives)
Several External USB or eSATA Drives (for off-system/off site backup).
Acer GN245HQ Flatscreen Monitor
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit
Blue Ray Burner
Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
Windows 7
Open Office
Service Contract
*Note: Actually despite the cost, one GTX 580 is faster in ALMOST every way than the Nvidia Quadro 6000. But the Quadro was optimized for CAD and simulations. So one or two Quadro's is faster at 2D & 3D rendering, and higher precision math... while a GTX 580 will be faster with animation, games, and EVERYTHING else. While 4 GTX580s won't get you past 15 digits of mathematical perfection, an array of 4 of them will dust most everything else on the planet!
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html (the Quadra 6K is 13th down the list!)
http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-3ds-max.html
I just noticed what Adam wrote. He's right about the diference between professional GPU and consumer ones. Another reason the Quadras will offer smoother and faster rendering is that it has 6GB of display memory. But it only has 448 processor cores (What the!?! Did I just say JUST 448 processors??) while the GTX 580 has 512(!!), and 4 of them will together also have 6GB of RAM. However, as Adam aptly noted, Nvidia definitely has high performance drivers for the Quadras. I haven't seen any for the 580, though it's FAR above Autodesk's GPU requirements. So before you buy anything you should give Nvidia a call (they are nice, laid back and VERY helpful) and get their 2 cents. BUT the general rule is that you (hopefully) get what you pay for. The Quadra 6K costs more than 3K. The GTX 580 costs around $500! However you should be able (ask Nvidia about this too) to put 4 Quadra 6000s in the system I described... That should be fast enough not to have to worry about it as other things in your system will be more of a bottleneck. But seeing that the 580's the fastest, most powerful GPU in the world... fast enough to take your head KLEEN off... That just leaves one question. DO YOU HAVE $14,000.00 to spend just on video cards? WELL? Do ya... punk??
You're probably too young to know what I'm talking about! :D
Clint? Dirty Harry? No? OK.
Oh yeah...
Don't hold your breath for Shady Bridge. Intel has to re-do the silicon!
Congratulations!
It sounds like you are preparing to have a lot of fun!
A couple of things you didn't mention:
1. When you say "state of the art" what computer class are you referring to? Laptop? Desktop? Industrial Super Computer?
2. What's your budget? 'This question's for the little people'... or 'I'm eating cat food after buying 3ds Max 2011!'.?
So, I'm gonna assume you mean what's best suited for the application within corporate reason. So. if it were MY birthday instead of yours, I'd put together a desktop system incorporating the following:
Intel Core i7 995X @ 3.60GHz CPU (And possibly overclock it to over 4Ghz)
EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI Motherboard
Thermaltake VN10001W2N Level 10 GT Full Tower Case
Thermaltake Spin Q CPU Cooler (With LGA 1366 Socket Support)
Ultra Electronics Card Systems 1600W X3 Modular Power Supply
24GB of DDR3 1600MHz (or faster) Dynamic RAM
2 SLI'ed Nvidia Quadro 6000s (if you call Bill Gates 'daddy'... biological or sugar.)* OR
4 SLI'ed Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 GPUs (which together, will cost less than one Quadro 6000!)*
2 SATA 3.0 6Gb/S Controllers
4 Crucial C300-CTFDDAC256MAG SSD drives configured in RAID 10 (for OS, programs, active projects and virtual memory)
4 or 6 Hitachi Deskstar 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB SATA 3.0 6.0Gb/s 3.5in Hard Drives in RAID 10 or 5 (for data and local project archives)
Several External USB or eSATA Drives (for off-system/off site backup).
Acer GN245HQ Flatscreen Monitor
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit
Blue Ray Burner
Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
Windows 7
Open Office
Service Contract
*Note: Actually despite the cost, one GTX 580 is faster in ALMOST every way than the Nvidia Quadro 6000. But the Quadro was optimized for CAD and simulations. So one or two Quadro's is faster at 2D & 3D rendering, and higher precision math... while a GTX 580 will be faster with animation, games, and EVERYTHING else. While 4 GTX580s won't get you past 15 digits of mathematical perfection, an array of 4 of them will dust most everything else on the planet!
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html (the Quadra 6K is 13th down the list!)
http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-3ds-max.html
I just noticed what Adam wrote. He's right about the diference between professional GPU and consumer ones. Another reason the Quadras will offer smoother and faster rendering is that it has 6GB of display memory. But it only has 448 processor cores (What the!?! Did I just say JUST 448 processors??) while the GTX 580 has 512(!!), and 4 of them will together also have 6GB of RAM. However, as Adam aptly noted, Nvidia definitely has high performance drivers for the Quadras. I haven't seen any for the 580, though it's FAR above Autodesk's GPU requirements. So before you buy anything you should give Nvidia a call (they are nice, laid back and VERY helpful) and get their 2 cents. BUT the general rule is that you (hopefully) get what you pay for. The Quadra 6K costs more than 3K. The GTX 580 costs around $500! However you should be able (ask Nvidia about this too) to put 4 Quadra 6000s in the system I described... That should be fast enough not to have to worry about it as other things in your system will be more of a bottleneck. But seeing that the 580's the fastest, most powerful GPU in the world... fast enough to take your head KLEEN off... That just leaves one question. DO YOU HAVE $14,000.00 to spend just on video cards? WELL? Do ya... punk??
You're probably too young to know what I'm talking about! :D
Clint? Dirty Harry? No? OK.
Oh yeah...
Don't hold your breath for Shady Bridge. Intel has to re-do the silicon!
Best/Cheapest Gaming PC or Should I build one?
Me
Title says it all basically, what is the best and cheapest gaming PC of 2011?
Or would I be better off building one? I'm kinda on a budget of under 600 or 500 right now.
Thanks!
Answer
I would recommend a build over a bought one, genuinely it's a cheaper. For 600$, you can build a pretty decent gaming machine so long as you exclude all I/O devices such as monitors, mouse & keyboards,etc.
If possible, swap some of your old hardware/software from your current PC to the new one, such as the Operating system and hard drives. This will save you a bit of cash. that can be spent on more essential hardware such as CPUs or video cards.
I would recommend a build over a bought one, genuinely it's a cheaper. For 600$, you can build a pretty decent gaming machine so long as you exclude all I/O devices such as monitors, mouse & keyboards,etc.
If possible, swap some of your old hardware/software from your current PC to the new one, such as the Operating system and hard drives. This will save you a bit of cash. that can be spent on more essential hardware such as CPUs or video cards.
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